Hispanic Americans accuse us of not thinking about what we are doing when, for example, say "climb up" or "lower down" and they were right, 'up' presupposes always go up, and 'down 'would necessarily also conducting a route down. If so (and do not think anyone doubt) it is clear that when he gets up and goes whenever it goes down low, making it impossible to do the opposite. From where you look where you look, if you know or think about what we're doing, but to say that we climb up or descend down to incur, in my opinion, a clear tautology, ie "too vicious or redundancy of words."
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